Originally posted by nefardec
I'm not going to waste my time responding to your post, except this got me.
How is any part of the transition process 'being a pussy'? (figuratively)
If you think it's just taking a pill, you're really mistaken.... damn.
It's quite easily the ballsiest and most difficult thing I've ever done.
its a quicker process then just accepting yourself for who you are.
and by who you are i mean everything you were dealt (sexuality race the way you feel inside)
I will accept the fact you may have a longer and harder time coming together as a full person. But I just think youre taking the easy way out. be a feminine dude, the way you were meant to be.
May-06-2011 15:54
nefardec
Tranceaddict in tranning
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
Gender and race are completely different. Did you know that some societies around the globe have as many as 5 different genders? It's a culturally accepted thing to have multiple genders, but hardly anybody wants to change races. Apples and oranges.
eh i don't know about that. maybe more culturally accepted since the 70s.
as far as people wanting to change races, it's more that they don't feel the need to do so, because racial markers are increasingly less important and obvious, and gender markers are still as important, oppositional, and obvious as always.
That is to say that race is less of an issue (though still very much one) - people are more color-blind than gender-blind, and gender is generally the first thing people perceive when relating to another person.
May-06-2011 15:56
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast
So if you were a man born very impoverished, and you wanted to become very successful, would it be "manning up" to just accept your lot in life and stay poor?
Oh, that's the hand you were dealt- no use trying to change things for what you perceive to be better, that'd be the pussy way out!
May-06-2011 15:56
Vivid Boy
TA's GodFather
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: T.O
anyways nerf, you do as you please with youre bod. i think ive given you more then enough time out of my life explaining my point of view on it. But just a heads up I will forever consider you a dude. and the majority of the general public will to. you can run from it but you cant hide from it. No matter what happens to your genitals as you pay for different transformations....you were born a guy and the whole world will always look at you as a man. a fuckin retarded man to be more specific
May-06-2011 15:57
ziptnf
Programming your future
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
eh i don't know about that. maybe more culturally accepted since the 70s.
Since the 70s for sure, but I sorta meant the concept of multiple genders are widely accepted in societies such as India and Pakistan.
May-06-2011 15:58
nefardec
Tranceaddict in tranning
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
anyways viv, you do as you please. i think ive given you more then enough time out of my life explaining my point of view on it. But just a heads up I will forever consider you a douche. and the majority of the general public will to. you can run from it but you cant hide from it. No matter what happens to your reputation as you pay for different collared shirts....you were born a douchebag and the whole world will always look at you as a douchebag. a fuckin retarded douchebag be more specific
May-06-2011 15:59
ziptnf
Programming your future
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
So if you were a man born very impoverished, and you wanted to become very successful, would it be "manning up" to just accept your lot in life and stay poor?
Oh, that's the hand you were dealt- no use trying to change things for what you perceive to be better, that'd be the pussy way out!
YOU WERE BORN POOR YOU WILL ALWAYS BE POOR!!!!
May-06-2011 15:59
Arbiter
Naked Power Organ
Registered: May 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
inner idea of self-image
I don't know what that is, but I don't think that I have one.
quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
Gender and race are completely different. Did you know that some societies around the globe have as many as 5 different genders? It's a culturally accepted thing to have multiple genders, but hardly anybody wants to change races. Apples and oranges.
I hope you aren't suggesting that all societies around the globe divide people into the same number of races...
In any event, they're both socially constructed nonsense, which is all that really needs to be said about either of them. Sex, on the other hand, is quite different because all you have to do is look at the chromosomes and (with rare exceptions) you have a straightforward, bright-line, binary distinction.
May-06-2011 16:02
Vivid Boy
TA's GodFather
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: T.O
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
anyways viv, you do as you please. youre like youre body, i think ive given you more then enough time out of my life explaining my point of view on it. But just a heads up I will forever consider you a douche. and the majority of the general public will to. you can run from it but you cant hide from it. No matter what happens to your reputation as you pay for different collared shirts....you were born a douchebag and the whole world will always look at you as a douchebag. a fuckin retarded douchebag be more specific
see the difference I have accepted myself as a douche. And wear it proud. i dont spend endless nights awake in my bed wondering am i a douche or am i not a douche? how do i feel about being a douche? do i feel like a douche on the inside? how should i genetically alter myself to not feel like a douche?
I am douche hear me belch
May-06-2011 16:02
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast
quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
I don't know what that is, but I don't think that I have one.
Bullshit, you've been reduced to a stack of discs several times in your existence as physical back-up.
//Perhaps "inner idea of self-image" is a rather hamfisted way to put it, but everybody has their subscriptions and aims as to who they want to appear as. Some appearances are more commonplace than others, in an effort to blend in with our given tribes, and other appearances are an effort to subscribe to different tribes. Attraction is all too often gauged by this attempted adherence, it's how the genes selfishly preserve ideological dominance, despite their relative blindness.
In nefardec's aims, I think this was the easiest way he could finally become a minority.
Last edited by Halcyon+On+On on May-06-2011 at 16:09
May-06-2011 16:04
ziptnf
Programming your future
Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
I hope you aren't suggesting that all societies around the globe divide people into the same number of races...
Not at all, I was merely pointing out that transgenderism is highly common in other societies, but being born as one race and changing to another race is highly uncommon.
May-06-2011 16:05
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast
quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
Not at all, I was merely pointing out that transgenderism is highly common in other societies, but being born as one race and changing to another race is highly uncommon.
I dunno man, I sure have seen a lot of dreadlocks up in Boulder.