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chris marsh
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Thanks Chris for your lengthy respond, appreciate man - so to answer your question about my headphones, yes I only had to use headphones and they are new to me so don't have good feel for them yet (will take some time), as far as dry sound I meant that there is nothing on master channel - also agree with you on the face that drums need to have more punch and some drive to it as right now they are a bit to static and not moving enough for me - good catch.

I decided to add a bit more melodic development to this WIP:



Darek


really liking the new break down section dude


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Richard Butler
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Darek



Like this mate

You could really add to the journey by throwing in some different chords on the arp after say a minute in, to surprise and uplift listeners.

I like the drums etc myself, but yeh just a little variation here n there. Nice vocal!


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Richard Butler
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Originally posted by Evolve140
Word, if I go back to that version I will give it a shot! I just decided on a totally different re-work though. Hopefully it sounds better, I did tweak the sound/melody though.



This could be good.

The melodic grip is strong.

BUT, sound choices for me personally are not good at all. Big twanging guitar and the distorted guitar sound are just so boring IM like GM sounds of a Yamaha keyboard.

If you change up the sound and make it a bit more Ibiza - Head Kandi smooth this is a great track

IMO lol


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evo8
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Originally posted by chris marsh
cheers for your ears yep its a difficult one because like i said i want it to be minimal and work with just the drums and bass, which i find quite a challenge. the last few tracks i did had full vocals/quite musical and i want to move away from that

the lead is introduced at the intro then doesn't come back until the break, im happy with that basic arrangement. Im just working on using vocal snippets here and there and incidental fx, but its quite difficult to make things fit and im finding with this one less is more. spent ours today trying stuff out and binned it all

id like to get it finished and move on to the next one with what i have learnt rather than changing anything too drastic

it may be that the bass on its own isn't quite "hooky" enough but next time i can work on that


totally hear you, i try to maintain as much space in my tracks as I can - the difficulty then becomes the fact that your existing parts and groove need to be interesting enough to carry the track on its own, not easy


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chris marsh
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totally hear you, i try to maintain as much space in my tracks as I can - the difficulty then becomes the fact that your existing parts and groove need to be interesting enough to carry the track on its own, not easy


yes for sure. my last few tracks the bass was just underpinning some musical stuff and vocals on top - so its a totally different ball game. i really want to crack this whole "mid bass" deal but its been bloody hard!

i think yo may be right though and i might keep the pluck/lead in at a very low level the whole way through just to compliment the bass. theres no rules afterall.......

edit:

i will spend some more time on this rather than just bang it out and finish it even if it takes a few extra weeks. did you get that tune that was a bit low on bass sorted? that was wicked m8


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djmd31
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Trying to finish this one up.

I feel it's missing something but can't put my finger on it.

What do you guys think

https://soundcloud.com/matthewduncandj/faith-10/s-9jY2V

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evo8
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quote:
Originally posted by djmd31
Trying to finish this one up.

I feel it's missing something but can't put my finger on it.

What do you guys think

https://soundcloud.com/matthewduncandj/faith-10/s-9jY2V


hi, please comment on the most recent track in the thread, as per the the thread rules, thanks


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djmd31
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Thanks Chris for your lengthy respond, appreciate man - so to answer your question about my headphones, yes I only had to use headphones and they are new to me so don't have good feel for them yet (will take some time), as far as dry sound I meant that there is nothing on master channel - also agree with you on the face that drums need to have more punch and some drive to it as right now they are a bit to static and not moving enough for me - good catch.

I decided to add a bit more melodic development to this WIP:



Darek [/QUOTE]

I think this sounds ok, I think the Vocals might be a little loud, and I would add some more delay and reverb to them.

It does have a solid groove, but I feel there is nothing that grabs my attention if you know what I mean. Arp melody is good!

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chris marsh
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quote:
Originally posted by djmd31
Trying to finish this one up.

I feel it's missing something but can't put my finger on it.

What do you guys think

https://soundcloud.com/matthewduncandj/faith-10/s-9jY2V


really nice tune and i like the concept, but i think the mix is a bit off. doesnt sound like anything is missing to me aside from that. I really like all the synths and music sounds great. IMO if you got the mix right it would be a cracker


are you referencing with a similar pro track in your arrangement when mixing? thats always helpful. Like im no trance expert, and i only ever really did one trance track (its in me sig) but if I A/B the too you can hear a significant difference in the mix. So if you A/B yours with a pro its going to fall flat mix wise

to me the kick doesnt sound quite right, pitched slightly too high perhaps, it just doesnt seem to quite have the satisfying thud int he lows id expect

also he high hats seem a little harsh, but also dont seem to fill out the high end

IMO of course....


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I think this sounds ok, I think the Vocals might be a little loud, and I would add some more delay and reverb to them.

It does have a solid groove, but I feel there is nothing that grabs my attention if you know what I mean. Arp melody is good!


Thanks djmd31 for your time and comment - appreciate. As far as your comment about "not garbing my attention", I think that each of as are looking for different things in the music to grab their attention and for me is all about quality of music production and melodic journey in it. What you were listening so far was a piece of my entire production which included an intro and usually (in any production) this part is not as attractive as potentially rest of the track but I hope that when I decided to finish it you going to like it

Thanks man,

Darek


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quote:
Originally posted by djmd31
Trying to finish this one up.

I feel it's missing something but can't put my finger on it.

What do you guys think

https://soundcloud.com/matthewduncandj/faith-10/s-9jY2V


I'm doing life commenting on your track - Let start with this statement: this production has potential (I would say quite good potential) but at least for me you will have to spend some amount of time on properly mixing your channels/levels/dynamics as at this moment your mixing thing is taking to much away from my listening experience. I would also suggest to look at your kick since is a bit destructing (or taking too much attention) from my listening and your bass line could take some tightening (I'm assuming that you only have one primary low freq bass) and you may have to sync it much closer with your mid range lead which works as your primary driver in main parts of your track - remember those are only my suggestion and you could ignore them completely as you are the only one who knows where you want to take your production (style and technique wise).

Cheers mate,

Darek


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quote:
Originally posted by djmd31
Trying to finish this one up.

I feel it's missing something but can't put my finger on it.

What do you guys think

https://soundcloud.com/matthewduncandj/faith-10/s-9jY2V


the kick is very clicky and too loud relative to other elements, id start by fixing that

as for the track as a whole, its sounds a bit cliche to me but then again i wouldnt really be into to this kind of music


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