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chris marsh
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
A very solid basis for a track, but definitely needs something more. No idea what that something would be, though.

And like Darek said, some drum fills every now and then to break the pattern.


cheers dude. Any ideas whats missing? I dont want to add too much as it needs to be a minimal track that relies on drums and bass really, but im hoping fills, incidental sounds, maybe some FX will be enough. what do you think?

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chris marsh
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
This is my latest WIP work and has to be done on headphones so I'm not really sure if I was able to get to proper levels and dynamics - how that's sound for you guys? (just dry sound, no fillers, drops, FX, ....)

Darek



this is a lovely track darek IMO. What cans are you mixing on? have you got any speakers at all ATM?

Is this completely dry IE no reverbs? sounds like you have some delays on there already?

the harmonies and ARPS are all really excellent IMO its got some really great musicality to it

I feel like the drums need more punch and the kick and snare need to punch through the mix little more. Personally i would like to feel a bit more drive form the drums like maybe a more driving hi hat pattern at some point or extra percussion layers but i suppose that would change the feel of the track. seems like the drums dont have the same drive as the synths presently but maybe thats what you are going for

seems like you have all the basic sounds well balanced, but it just needs that final push and mixdown, and in this style of music using the tight kind of reverb/wet fx would probably make a world of difference


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quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
cheers dude. Any ideas whats missing? I dont want to add too much as it needs to be a minimal track that relies on drums and bass really, but im hoping fills, incidental sounds, maybe some FX will be enough. what do you think?

c

I really can't say, it just needs that little extra "something," you know. What you just said there could very well do the trick.

I also usually don't really want to say what I'd do or want to hear, since I don't want to influence others' piece of work too much.


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chris marsh
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I really can't say, it just needs that little extra "something," you know. What you just said there could very well do the trick.

I also usually don't really want to say what I'd do or want to hear, since I don't want to influence others' piece of work too much.


cheers. well im always happy to hear other peoples opinions on the tunes


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quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
This is my latest WIP work and has to be done on headphones so I'm not really sure if I was able to get to proper levels and dynamics - how that's sound for you guys? (just dry sound, no fillers, drops, FX, ....)

Darek



imo Darek its ok, not as interesting as your previous stuff.....


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quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
still needs some work and also a final mixdown but any thoughts are welcome

thanks

chris



agree with Mr Mystery, its missing some kind of motif or maybe some vocals would actually work
listening again i hear some kind of lead around the 4 min mark, i would bring this forward and develop a little more or something, also i would introduce it a lot earlier
also around 3:40 there is a cool kind of sound that you could maintain, needs to brought forward also
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quote:
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imo Darek its ok, not as interesting as your previous stuff.....


Should I finish it I hope I could change your mind lol

Thanks man,

Darek


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quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
this is a lovely track darek IMO. What cans are you mixing on? have you got any speakers at all ATM?

Is this completely dry IE no reverbs? sounds like you have some delays on there already?

the harmonies and ARPS are all really excellent IMO its got some really great musicality to it

I feel like the drums need more punch and the kick and snare need to punch through the mix little more. Personally i would like to feel a bit more drive form the drums like maybe a more driving hi hat pattern at some point or extra percussion layers but i suppose that would change the feel of the track. seems like the drums dont have the same drive as the synths presently but maybe thats what you are going for

seems like you have all the basic sounds well balanced, but it just needs that final push and mixdown, and in this style of music using the tight kind of reverb/wet fx would probably make a world of difference


Thanks Chris for your lengthy respond, appreciate man - so to answer your question about my headphones, yes I only had to use headphones and they are new to me so don't have good feel for them yet (will take some time), as far as dry sound I meant that there is nothing on master channel - also agree with you on the face that drums need to have more punch and some drive to it as right now they are a bit to static and not moving enough for me - good catch.

I decided to add a bit more melodic development to this WIP:



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defo finish it mate!


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quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Thanks Chris for your lengthy respond, appreciate man - so to answer your question about my headphones, yes I only had to use headphones and they are new to me so don't have good feel for them yet (will take some time), as far as dry sound I meant that there is nothing on master channel - also agree with you on the face that drums need to have more punch and some drive to it as right now they are a bit to static and not moving enough for me - good catch.

I decided to add a bit more melodic development to this WIP:



Darek


did you tweak the bassline? made a big difference and the melodies are more prominent now, im starting to like it!


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quote:
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did you tweak the bassline? made a big difference and the melodies are more prominent now, im starting to like it!


Yeah, some adjustment was made to this bass line (levels and EQ), didn't like the way this bass sounded, also did some small tweaks to kick and drums plus much large changes to basic melody which I decided to expend extensively (from 3 chord to 8 in the break area for more catchy melancholic effect). Just to finish my tweaks I decided to control a bit better sidechain attack and release timing on all of my instrument to sink to much higher degree this interplay between plucks and arps - good ear and thanks Paul.

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chris marsh
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quote:
Originally posted by evo8
agree with Mr Mystery, its missing some kind of motif or maybe some vocals would actually work
listening again i hear some kind of lead around the 4 min mark, i would bring this forward and develop a little more or something, also i would introduce it a lot earlier
also around 3:40 there is a cool kind of sound that you could maintain, needs to brought forward also
my 2c


cheers for your ears yep its a difficult one because like i said i want it to be minimal and work with just the drums and bass, which i find quite a challenge. the last few tracks i did had full vocals/quite musical and i want to move away from that

the lead is introduced at the intro then doesn't come back until the break, im happy with that basic arrangement. Im just working on using vocal snippets here and there and incidental fx, but its quite difficult to make things fit and im finding with this one less is more. spent ours today trying stuff out and binned it all

id like to get it finished and move on to the next one with what i have learnt rather than changing anything too drastic

it may be that the bass on its own isn't quite "hooky" enough but next time i can work on that


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