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tehlord
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This is my Tetra, bitches. My studio wins.




What no Prophet 12?


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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
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yes the 300's stay, upgrading to the new ones is to expensive with not enough to gain, as I mainly use them as B monitors now. And the improvement is marginal/taste.

Have been looking ar vandamme blueline studio and requested a quote for 4 db25>xlr snakes, 6 db25 <> db25 snakes together with 40 tt patchcords 1ft. will probably again be another 1.200GBP and together with the TASCAM DSD recorder, it's going to be an expensive December again.


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cryophonik
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Originally posted by tehlord
What no Prophet 12?



Naw, I just picked this up because I got a good deal on it and because it's small enough to fit in my setup without having to expand my studio footprint. I really wanted a P12 desktop, but the prototype that Dave Smith has previewed looks a little too barren on the front panel for my taste. Actually, I think I'm lusting over the Nord Rack 4 more than the P12, based on the demos I've heard.


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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Naw, I just picked this up because I got a good deal on it and because it's small enough to fit in my setup without having to expand my studio footprint. I really wanted a P12 desktop, but the prototype that Dave Smith has previewed looks a little too barren on the front panel for my taste. Actually, I think I'm lusting over the Nord Rack 4 more than the P12, based on the demos I've heard.
i went exactly the oppositie way.
Had the nord 4r and traded it up to a P12, never looked back, the 4R is like massive in a box, for me it added nothing compared to VSTis
The P12 is just wow, the desktop version looks ugly though


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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
This is my Tetra, bitches. My studio wins.



Yuck; Hosa cables

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Have been looking ar vandamme blueline studio and requested a quote for 4 db25>xlr snakes, 6 db25 <> db25 snakes together with 40 tt patchcords 1ft. will probably again be another 1.200GBP and together with the TASCAM DSD recorder, it's going to be an expensive December again.



Raphie, you're a commercial business right? Ask for a trade account with trade. I used to work for them and can give you whatever advice you need about to spec them. By the way, make sure you get as specific as you possibly can;

Tail lengths, pliosil tails, numbers, labeling (i.e. "input snake 1" or "master outs 1-16") type of DB connectors (they have the really nice high quality metal ones etc), exact lengths etc.

The studio grade multicore they do is the industry standard at every great studio in the world. Abbey, Air, Olympic, Sarm, The Royal Opera House, Metropolis, Peter Gabriels real word, Brit Row.

Interesting Story: The Old Decca Studio in Hampstead London (where I'm from) was again up for lease after being the English National Opera rehearsal space for the last 25 years. It had the first gen of Van Damme cable installed and the owner of VD went to check out the place and found that after 25+ years of abuse all the tie lines, all the connections were still perfect.

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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands

Yes, pro, got customers, invoice and get paid.
I'm working with a vndamme configurator atm, which includes all you mentioned
I'm working with Digidesign Digisnakes atm, but epscially the XLR snake soldering is really bad (the db25's are ok though) and also some HOSA db25's which work fine, but are low end. they are really strong molded, haven't busted 1 yet, but just want homogene wiring all along. So vandamme blue it's gonna be 16 snakes in total, 96 patchpoints and full direct out / tape return from my SSL Alphalink
Only thing that's lacking now is a decent website, but i just can't be asked.Have decent business from word of mouth, but I guess I could do more promotion.



quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Yuck; Hosa cables



Raphie, you're a commercial business right? Ask for a trade account with trade. I used to work for them and can give you whatever advice you need about to spec them. By the way, make sure you get as specific as you possibly can;

Tail lengths, pliosil tails, numbers, labeling (i.e. "input snake 1" or "master outs 1-16") type of DB connectors (they have the really nice high quality metal ones etc), exact lengths etc.

The studio grade multicore they do is the industry standard at every great studio in the world. Abbey, Air, Olympic, Sarm, The Royal Opera House, Metropolis, Peter Gabriels real word, Brit Row.

Interesting Story: The Old Decca Studio in Hampstead London (where I'm from) was again up for lease after being the English National Opera rehearsal space for the last 25 years. It had the first gen of Van Damme cable installed and the owner of VD went to check out the place and found that after 25+ years of abuse all the tie lines, all the connections were still perfect.


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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Yes, pro, got customers, invoice and get paid.
I'm working with a vndamme configurator atm, which includes all you mentioned
I'm working with Digidesign Digisnakes atm, but epscially the XLR snake soldering is really bad (the db25's are ok though) and also some HOSA db25's which work fine, but are low end. they are really strong molded, haven't busted 1 yet, but just want homogene wiring all along. So vandamme blue it's gonna be 16 snakes in total, 96 patchpoints and full direct out / tape return from my SSL Alphalink
Only thing that's lacking now is a decent website, but i just can't be asked.Have decent business from word of mouth, but I guess I could do more promotion.


Sounds like you're going about the right way! The digisnakes aren't actually that bad, they're just not really that great, and there's always been supply problems with them and even though Digi aren't meant to, the techs there tell people to buy Van Damme as they know they're better and Digi don't get connection issues to troubleshoot.

One thong to be careful of (even though they are usually good on this) make sure you supply in writing/get it back confirmed regarding the pinout and/or what your connections are. Sometimes when these things get complex a mistake can be made and if you have what you wanted in writing and signed off, and they supply anything different, it;s on them to fix it and that shipping can add up

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Raphie
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Yep, I'll write my own statement of work, next to the configurator output and have them sign both


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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
i went exactly the oppositie way.
Had the nord 4r and traded it up to a P12, never looked back, the 4R is like massive in a box, for me it added nothing compared to VSTis
The P12 is just wow, the desktop version looks ugly though


Yeah, I'd love to have the full P12, but I don't have room for another keyboard, so it would have to replace my Virus TI2, which is my main controller and very integral (no pun intended) to my whole studio/workflow. I don't really plan on buying a NR4 either, since I agree that it would be redundant with my other VAs (Virus, PC3X, and soft synths). Some of the NL4 demos really do impress me, though. Most of the P12 demos that I've heard are pretty bad TBH, but most of them seem to be made by gearslutz-types who only want to make boring-ass drones with it. I'd sorta like to get my hands on one, but then again, it would probably reignite my GAS.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Yuck; Hosa cables


Ha! I KNEW you were going to say something about that!

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
...and also some HOSA db25's which work fine, but are low end. they are really strong molded, haven't busted 1 yet,...


Same here. I mostly use Hosa cables for synths and other "permanent" installations (i.e., where I'm not unplugging/plugging them in repeatedly) and have never had one go bad on me. I've also A/B'ed and null tested them against my more expensive cables and there is absolutely no detectable difference in sound quality. For my bass, guitars, microphones, etc. I use better cables.


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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Ha! I KNEW you were going to say something about that!
I mostly use Hosa cables for synths and other "permanent" installations (i.e., where I'm not unplugging/plugging them in repeatedly) and have never had one go bad on me. I've also A/B'ed and null tested them against my more expensive cables and there is absolutely no detectable difference in sound quality. For my bass, guitars, microphones, etc. I use better cables.


Lol, sorry Dave, couldn't resist!

For short runs where and the fact you're obviously doing smart things like keeping your power cables separate, don't have grounding issues etc and not plugging them in and out all the time, Hosa are decent to work fine. EDM synths aren't timbre crucial anyway (unlike say a Violin recorded with vintage neumann mic through some boutique pre) so there's no point fussing.

Guitars are actually really crucial though. On some studio projects we literally were asked to try different cables to see what the effect was and it was quite astounding how different 25ft instrument cables can sound when A/B'd.

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Treatment time! Gonna make a new thread for halp.


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Your speaker stands are probably worth as much as my entire studio


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