how come you use the word techno as in all electronic music?

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Originally posted by mndeg how come you use the word techno as in all electronic music?

It's more correct than electronica.

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mndeg: I use it because of several reasons! Here's the lineage to my personal thoughtline.


ONE... these are TECHNOlogy-based forms of music.

TWO... the Kraftwerkian vision of "Techno-Pop" which was shared by other luminaries including Yellow Magic Orchestra during that time of growth.

THREE... people, including those who are not too familiar, use "techno" as a term to describe all or almost all electronic music (perhaps excepting the avant-garde and academic stuff). It's a friendly way to get started.

FOUR... my devotion to Hyperreal's legacy and their own definition as per:

http://www.hyperreal.org/~mike/pub/altraveFAQ.html

FIVE... my keen interest in the futuristic visions of Alvin and Heidi Toffler and the mention of "techno rebels" (tying this together with the Star Wars bit! hee hee!) in their seminal text, The Third Wave:

http://www.jahsonic.com/AlvinToffler.html

SIX... it's very easy to explain and very accessible, as per the above and beyond. Part of the power of an idea is its ability to propagate. Everyone is familiar with computers and many know of synthesizers. Also, I like the Googlism collective of ideas -- now, I don't agree with all of these, but it's a lot of fun:

http://www.googlism.com/what_is/t/techno_music/

SEVEN... techno pioneer Juan Atkins once was asked: "What is techno music?" and he answered, "Music that sounds like technology." which really asks you to look inside for personal truths . . . and completes the circle.


There are many other reasons but that's a few of 'em! I also attribute the development of my ideas to fine expositions like this one, *meowed the tomcat*:

http://analogik.com/article_techno.asp

Of course, typing "What is techno?" into Google will bring up all sorts of colorful and overlapping, and in some cases, conflicting definitions, so I have gone with a diverse, AND (not OR) approach for my own purposes which: retains the precision of the esoteric, like a fine blade, yet is also sweeping enough to embrace other people's imagination, like a fan. Of course, I understand the power of currency exchange in words, and here I do employ specifics like "trance" and micro-specifics like "regressive uplifting trance designed to be mixed by hybrid catdogs missing an outro but featuring an ambient/chill-out breakdown section influenced by early-00s glitchcore with a tinge of speed garage and filtered hi-hats with angular melodies and an arpeggiated vocal fx line and possibly Top 40 pop while this track is devoid of all snare rolls thus causing a run-on sentence".

I also use "electronica", but as Radagast alluded to, it's more commonly associated with the popular Stateside invasion of the form in the late 90s and harkened by that TIME Magazine article. "Electronic dance music" is used but it is unpleasantly unwieldy, and the acronym must be expanded often, so sometimes just "dance music" will do. I don't make a fuss over the terms and if someone prefers to use something else for a given conversation, I may explain my reasoning but it's not a big deal. As I like to say:

One man's epic house is another woman's progressive trance

As for the specific styles of "Detroit techno" or "Cologne techno" or "minimal techno", they are not redundant and I respect their place in the timeline and look forward to future developments.

Cheers.

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Originally posted by aspergian One man's epic house is another woman's progressive trance

You should put that in your sig, you say it so much.

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i think its fine cause it makes people like me(an aspiring producer) sound more original and it leads to less competition

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Originally posted by DJ Cinos The 80's were fun, but still, shouldn't be covered.

The 80's WERE fun ... that's exactly right my friend and I don't need to relive that coz I'm having fun right here in the new millenium

Like Torontotrance said, it's depressing that everyone is out to rehash old tunes, it annoys me in sets too. My friends saw a top DJ a little while back (I ain't gonna name him coz it will only start a bitching contest) and they said "He was fantastic, played for four hours and it was nearly all classics like Del Mar and Binary Finary". Yeah that's great but personally I wanna hear NEW music when I go out, I wanna hear dj's and producers innovate (God bless James Holden and thankyou Sasha for moving into the new). I haven't got anything against the old stuff , I like hearing it now and again or at a peak point in a live set but ENOUGH with the endless remixes and remakes.

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Originally posted by aspergian mndeg: I use it because of several reasons! Here's the lineage to my personal thoughtline. ONE... these are TECHNOlogy-based forms of music. TWO... the Kraftwerkian vision of "Techno-Pop" which was shared by other luminaries including Yellow Magic Orchestra during that time of growth. THREE... people, including those who are not too familiar, use "techno" as a term to describe all or almost all electronic music (perhaps excepting the avant-garde and academic stuff). It's a friendly way to get started. FOUR... my devotion to Hyperreal's legacy and their own definition as per: http://www.hyperreal.org/~mike/pub/altraveFAQ.html FIVE... my keen interest in the futuristic visions of Alvin and Heidi Toffler and the mention of "techno rebels" (tying this together with the Star Wars bit! hee hee!) in their seminal text, The Third Wave: http://www.jahsonic.com/AlvinToffler.html SIX... it's very easy to explain and very accessible, as per the above and beyond. Part of the power of an idea is its ability to propagate. Everyone is familiar with computers and many know of synthesizers. Also, I like the Googlism collective of ideas -- now, I don't agree with all of these, but it's a lot of fun: http://www.googlism.com/what_is/t/techno_music/ SEVEN... techno pioneer Juan Atkins once was asked: "What is techno music?" and he answered, "Music that sounds like technology." which really asks you to look inside for personal truths . . . and completes the circle. There are many other reasons but that's a few of 'em! I also attribute the development of my ideas to fine expositions like this one, *meowed the tomcat*: http://analogik.com/article_techno.asp Of course, typing "What is techno?" into Google will bring up all sorts of colorful and overlapping, and in some cases, conflicting definitions, so I have gone with a diverse, AND (not OR) approach for my own purposes which: retains the precision of the esoteric, like a fine blade, yet is also sweeping enough to embrace other people's imagination, like a fan. Of course, I understand the power of currency exchange in words, and here I do employ specifics like "trance" and micro-specifics like "regressive uplifting trance designed to be mixed by hybrid catdogs missing an outro but featuring an ambient/chill-out breakdown section influenced by early-00s glitchcore with a tinge of speed garage and filtered hi-hats with angular melodies and an arpeggiated vocal fx line and possibly Top 40 pop while this track is devoid of all snare rolls thus causing a run-on sentence". I also use "electronica", but as Radagast alluded to, it's more commonly associated with the popular Stateside invasion of the form in the late 90s and harkened by that TIME Magazine article. "Electronic dance music" is used but it is unpleasantly unwieldy, and the acronym must be expanded often, so sometimes just "dance music" will do. I don't make a fuss over the terms and if someone prefers to use something else for a given conversation, I may explain my reasoning but it's not a big deal. As I like to say: One man's epic house is another woman's progressive trance As for the specific styles of "Detroit techno" or "Cologne techno" or "minimal techno", they are not redundant and I respect their place in the timeline and look forward to future developments. Cheers.

all that stuff is outdated, when rock first started out I bet everythign was called "rock" or rock n roll or whatever as well
but it branched out to punk and whatever

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I'm sure a lot of it is done for the $$$, but you gotta admit there's a certain charm to be dancing away and suddenly hearing a bootleg remix of one of your favorite oldies that you'd never expect to hear.

Problem is, its difficult to distinguish between the two (when they're released, at least).

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Originally posted by mndeg all that stuff is outdated, when rock first started out I bet everythign was called "rock" or rock n roll or whatever as well but it branched out to punk and whatever

There is a popular saying a long-haired wiseman who smoked a lot told me. I didn't like his cigarette habits, but I did appreciate his sage (a favorite word) wisdom.

He said:

"To me, Torley, it's all ROCK 'N' ROLL!!!"

And then he got his guitar and showed me his chops.

Which is why I'd like to learn guitar someday...

I think he summed it up perfectly.

And therein lies the spirit.

Peace.

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sorry to hijack the thread, but

apergian, i was just wonderin did you make a pianomental of james holden's horizons?

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No prob. Yup |cEbLu3, that was me, thanks for asking . Big fan of that ch00n.

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