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Originally posted by ilovetrance2k3 to be honest trance seems to be on the bottom of the food chain... everyone seems to hate on trance: house heads, dnb, techno, and etc. i really can't blame them though; trance in my opinion is a very mundane, boring genre. i can't stand the arpeggio oscillating synths, or the cheesy drumlines.

I wouldn't say it's on the bottom of the foodchain, rather, it's on top, which is why it's subject to more bashings. There's a reason artists like DJ Sammy have made it so big - the trance form is very appealing to the masses, which is what makes it so much worse to the "better" genres that remain more underground.

And don't start claiming the more popular forms of trance aren't trance at all. They both use the same supersaw, the same climatic buildup and breakdown, the same use of female vocals, the same uplifting chord progression, the same drum machine, etc... Just because it's created to be a chart-topper with mass appeal doesn't automatically put it into another category. Look at the fundamentals - they're all the same, it's just the way in which it's percieved that makes them cheesy or not.

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Originally posted by Millsyy2k Here in the UK when i am out and about i often meet people who take an interest in the fact that i DJ and Produce. The most common question of course is "What type of music do you play?" to which i always respond "Electronic dance music". Sometimes this is enough to satisfy their curiosity but others often enquire further "What type of dance music?" and here the problem lies. Many years ago when trance was still underground i had no problems in proudly puffing out my chest and declaring "I play trance music" but now days i say "Trance" and then before you could blink an eye, back it up with "But not that commercial crap in the charts like - Pretty Green Eyes...... etc etc etc". I hate the fact that i now have to launch into a detailed defence of my music before they have the chance to sneer. Am i just paranoid (and there was never going to be a sneer in the first place!!) or have the commercial money makers damaged the reputation of our music so badly that you guys feel the same as me??? Millsy

i get exactly the same thing mate. its a common thing in the uk and it fucking sucks. I just make them listen to me dj and then slip a few random tracks in that i know they will like and then they seem to decide that trance aint that bad.

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here in the US you tell peeps you like trance and they say "its that like techno" or "its to repetitive" "it all sounds the same", there is so much musical ignorance here

Yes its a bad word, its very dirty, and bad, and filthy. But i love it.

what do you listen to?
uhh trance prog trance prog house prog breaks and a little bit of D&B and techno

whats that?


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The problem lies in the fact that while EDM lovers love to profess their 'acceptance' of other people's musical tastes they somehow, at the same time, love to hate on the trance sub-genre.

Trance is looked upon as this entry point into EDM and so anyone who must still like Trance either has not yet 'evolved' to the other genres and/or is assumed to be a clueless twat.

I love trance, and those who don't, well, that's fine too.

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I'm not sure about "trance" being a dirty word, but there are certainly people with dirty -- as in obscured and clouded, not sexually perverse -- minds.

For example, if you go up to someone and start a conversation, and while conversing you say:

"I like trance music such as..."

only to find yourself suddenly cut off by an angry snarl of:

"I HATE TRANCE! TRANCE SUCKS!!"

That's a foremost example. Notice how you're interrupted even before going into the specifics. Notably, the divide is apparent when you talk to DnB elitists or those into the more experimental IDM/Braindance types of music but not much else. It doesn't say much about you. However, it does say something about the narrow minds and prejucice you'll encounter in your journeys.

But me? I love trance and I am grateful to the DJs and producers and all my fellow trance-listeners, and I'm proud to say it. Specifics? Well, I've namedropped plenty. Mwahahaha.

Alternatively, as beats and beeps put it:

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Yes its a bad word, its very dirty, and bad, and filthy. But i love it.

I like this approach of running with and embracing the term. It's kind of like the word "cheese" and saying:

"OOohhhyaaaa I like cheese a whole lot, I like its supple, melty cheesiness, I want it smeared all over my body -- and I love it!"

Maybe Too Much Info (TM) there. But you get the idea. Great idea for a track! Recite it over the rhythm bed.

"Now, let me tell you about TRANCE.
It's a bad bad word.
It's a bad bad ba- ba- word.
It's very 1. Dirty, 2. Bad, 3. Filthy
But you know what?
(pause as the drums stop for a bar or two)
I LOVE IT!!!
(breakbeat storms in and the kick drum drops back, massive)"

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What I can't stand is the former trance lovers who have moved on to other genres and they know deny claims they ever loved trance. Some of us like me have never denied our histories, I grew up to eurodance in the mid 90's, I was a rocker before that. I think that trance, techno and other genres are dirty words at times because the public has a different view of it. Techno to most that live in Toronto is eurodance, trance is flip n fill and dj sammy and house is the lame 4 min commercial edits. I've given up on genre elitism because my tastes have grown to encompass so many genres now. I listen to what I like, I mean I listen to classical as well as EDM.

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Originally posted by torontotrance What I can't stand is the former trance lovers who have moved on to other genres and they know deny claims they ever loved trance. Some of us like me have never denied our histories, I grew up to eurodance in the mid 90's, I was a rocker before that. I think that trance, techno and other genres are dirty words at times because the public has a different view of it. Techno to most that live in Toronto is eurodance, trance is flip n fill and dj sammy and house is the lame 4 min commercial edits. I've given up on genre elitism because my tastes have grown to encompass so many genres now. I listen to what I like, I mean I listen to classical as well as EDM.

i agree..i dont listen to a track just because it is a certian genre..i will give any track a chance..i listen to good music not good genre..

Certain producers, I'll just avoid now because they have not changed anything but I'm game for just about anything new these days.

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