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MrJiveBoJingles
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Can you hear the difference between 320 Kpbs MP3 and a WAV?

I can't, but some people claim to be able. And if you can, how do you tell them apart?

I may devise something to put people's claims about this to the test.

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Re: Can you hear the difference between 320 Kpbs MP3 and a WAV?

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iammesol
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I can, but only if one 320 mp3 and one wav were played right after each other. I can't just hear one song and go "that's a wav"

And the only way I can explain it... is that there is more depth. Like the sounds are much clearer, and spread apart.

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Sushipunk
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quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
I can, but only if one 320 mp3 and one wav were played right after each other. I can't just hear one song and go "that's a wav"

And the only way I can explain it... is that there is more depth. Like the sounds are much clearer, and spread apart.


That's exactly how I feel, it's really hard to put to words. It just sounds richer to me. Mind you, it's only on some monitors I can tell the difference. With regular speakers, no chance at all.


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yah i can.

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SuspicionVandit
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256mp3-320mp3, can't tell the difference. 320mp3 to 128aac, yes. 320mp3 to WAV, yes.

but i agree with the ^^^ about seeing the difference between formats when intently looking for richer sound.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Okay, here's a 320 Kpbs MP3:

http://www.philosophaster.com/music/test/MP3.mp3

And here's a WAV sample made from the original (uncompressed) song:

http://www.philosophaster.com/music/test/WAV.wav

Now here are twenty different WAV files. Ten of them were made from the original song, and ten of them were made from the MP3 file linked above. Your goal, if you want to prove you can hear the difference, is to correctly identify the sound of each numbered file as either "MP3" or "WAV." Here you go:

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And no cheating by looking at spectrum analyzers, visualizers, or file sizes.

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Sushipunk
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Okay, here's a 320 Kpbs MP3:

http://www.philosophaster.com/music/test/MP3.mp3

And here's a WAV sample made from the original (uncompressed) song:

http://www.philosophaster.com/music/test/WAV.wav

Now here are twenty different WAV files. Ten of them were made from the original song, and ten of them were made from the MP3 file linked above. Your goal, if you want to prove you can hear the difference, is to correctly identify the sound of each numbered file as either "MP3" or "WAV." Here you go:

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20

And no cheating by looking at spectrum analyzers, visualizers, or file sizes.


Good challenge

I can't tell shit all difference between any of those on the speakers I'm using right now (Logitech X-530) but I'll have a go later on on my Alesis Monitor 2's and my Yamaha HS80M's and see if I can hear a difference then.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Here we go. This is a WAV file made from a CD and various bitrates of MP3:

http://www.philosophaster.com/music/test/Gabriel.wav

1411 Kbps (WAV) -- 320 MP3 -- 256 -- 192 -- 128 -- 64 -- 32

The same four bars play seven times at seven different descending bitrates. At what point can you tell the difference?

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Oh dear, another one of these.

Needless to say, I'm of the persuasion that people who claim to be able to objectively tell the difference between a 320kbps MP3 and WAV are full of shit - and further, I'm fairly confident I could fool most people into thinking a 192KBPS MP3 was a 320.


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spc
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quote:
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I'm fairly confident I could fool most people into thinking a 192KBPS MP3 was a 320.


Yeah, I feel the same way.. I don't really notice much of a difference. But maybe it has more to do with my crappy earphones and a mediocre soundcard

edit: or maybe my ears just suck


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