It's funny, I haven't lurked here in a few months, and so I stop by to see not just a post from Shakka, but I'm in it sorta!
|Originally posted by Shakka |
Back for 1 night only folks, 1 night.
Not trying to stir the political pot here but a couple of observations (and I'm curious what my liberal counterparts (Opus, are you out there?) think.
1) How the shape of foreign policy has changed over the last decade. During the Bush years it was the Neocons this, Neocons that...The GOP was actively engaged in aggressive, if not offensive foreign policy while the left wanted nothing to do with it (save for those brief moments after 9/11 when everybody was on the same team). Nowadays, with the rise of the Tea Party, more and more on the right are looking inward in more of an isolationist bent while the left is getting dragged more and more into activities outside our borders (Libya, Syria, Egypt etc).
Some definite truth in this. I think it speaks a lot to the old mantra that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Granted, there's major differences between Obama and Bush. But whether one wants to admit it or not, to me it's also undeniable that there's too many similarities as well, and foreign policy certainly falls under these similar ideals.
|2) Can we expound a bit on the hypocrisy of all of this with our dear leader Obama and his newly annointed Secretary of State, John Kerry? George Bush was a warmonger and a war criminal for acting unilaterally while the left bashed him and carried on about how he should be tried for war crimes and what not.|
True, but until Obama enters a war under false pretenses and outright lies about the rationale for entering the war (ex: remember the Downing Street memo, also read the New Yorker's Stovepipe and let's not forget about the Curveball informant), I think the comparison between the two under similar rationales is pretty weak at best. If anything, Obama has been fairly truthful about his motives for military action - i.e. getting and killing bin Laden, taking out al Quaeda, etc.
|Now, President Obama, once so critical of George Bush's foreign policy, has painted himself (and our country so to speak) into a corner with his little "red line" speech, and with Britain voting not to get involved, Obama is now in a position of acting unilaterally to take military action against another sovereign nation, potentially doing further damage to relationships with Russia and China (among others) along the way. What about the implications of a military conflict in the Middle East with Israel and Iran? Meanwhile, John Flipflopper Kerry, who was for the Bush wars before he was against them, has touted evidence of chemical attacks against Syrian citizens/rebels by Assad (though there is no conclusive evidence yet that Assad did it), leading the charge. The chemical attacks could've been strategically carried out by Russia for all we know (why would Assad do it? He was already winning the war and had more to lose by using chemical weapons while Russia would benefit from things like higher oil prices). And early reports were that our leaders were considering a military strike before the U.N. inspectors completed there inspections. Does any of this sound familiar??!? |
Yes it does. Incidentally, what's with all the hatred towards Kerry? He's merely following marching orders from above. Just sayin'.
As for Obama's actions, he has indeed boxed himself in a corner a bit. But he's doing a fairly decent job of slowly trying to wiggle his way out by exercising a bit more patience, trying to get Congress involved, and pursuading both the American public and other countries to jump in. I'm not saying I agree with him, because I don't. I'm personally tired of all the fucking wars over there, and as far as I'm concerned let them fight amongst themselves. Hell, if we really want this war to end, just give Israel the green light. They'll make mince meat out of the Syrian army if we let them.
I think the majority of Americans are against this one for good reason. You'll also find the majority of Liberals against it too - check out the Liberal sights like DailyKos if you want to get a pulse on their sentiments - it's clearly not in Obama's corner on this one. We're personally sick of this shit.
|So, just some food for thought. Do things ever change? It just looks like the tables have been flipped and Obama is as daft as ever. What say you (few people that even troll this website anymore)?|
Again, I think there's a lot in common amongst POTUS's regardless of party affiliation than many of us want to admit, and this is a shining example.
So how's the family?
Whence September dusk grows crisper still,
with leaves all crimson conquered,
I yearn to shout,
and dance about,
and stick pickles in my honker...