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| Originally posted by FunkyCrew Sash - you need to chill, between this and the Deadmau5 thread, you'll go completely white - mir, zhvachka, druzhba |
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| Originally posted by Sasha lmao. this comment makes as much sense as other crap you posted earlier. ZERO |
The OP is a joke, right?
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| Originally posted by FunkyCrew the amount of rebuttal it got just proved my point |
I have yet to hear any facts.
http://www.opordanalytical.com/articles/Litvinenko.htm
http://www.amazon.com/Phony-Litvinenko-Murder-Finally-doesnt/dp/0615559018
still no facts from you either
Good article on this subject. Long but def worth reading:
http://www.voltairenet.org/Putin-Wins-Overwhelmingly
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Putin Wins Overwhelmingly In his boiled-down style, Stephen Lendman eviscerates the specious claims of election fraud trotted out by Western "media scoundrels" to discredit Vladimir Putin’s irrefutable victory. At issue is not the transparency of the electoral process, but the turning point marked by Putin’s comeback as a leading statesman that will hold his ground on the international scene. It heralds the end of a uni-polar system ruled over by the United States, Israel and NATO in outrageous disregard of international law, on which there is no going back. Putin’s outspokenness won’t stop. He’ll continue saying “nobody can impose anything on us” and opposing Western efforts “to destroy Russia." "Today our people have proven that such scenarios are not going to work in our country.” Pre-election polls predicted around a 60% majority. Final results show Putin won 63.6% of the vote. He got a clear third term mandate. In 2004, he won 71%. Five candidates contended: United Russia’s Vladimir Putin The Communist Party’s Gennady Zyuganov The Liberal Democratic Party’s Vladimir Zhirinovsky Just Russia’s Sergey Mironov Independent candidate Mikhail Prokhorov (billionaire/Russia’s third richest man) With nearly all votes counted, official results were as follows: Putin: 63.6% Zyuganov: 17.2% Prokhorov: 7.9% Zhirinovsky: 6.2% Mironov: 3.9% Turnout was 63.3%. It exceeded December’s parliamentary elections. Opponents allege fraud. So do major media scoundrels. At issue isn’t who won or lost. Nor is it about a fair or fraudulent process. America’s electoral system is hopelessly corrupted and broken, yet media giants praise it. They also cheerlead America’s imperial agenda. As a result, they reject Putin’s opposition along with China, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, perhaps Brazil and India, and others fed up with what harms their interests. Putin’s especially outspoken. He accused America of living beyond its means “like a parasite” harming the global economy. He also called dollar dominance a threat to financial markets. If America’s in “systemic malfunction” it affects everyone, he added. In 2003, he denounced Washington’s Iraq war, saying: “The use of force abroad, according to existing international laws, can only be sanctioned by the United Nations. This is the international law. Everything that is done without the UN Security Council’s sanction cannot be recognised as fair or justified.” “I am being as restrained as I can be when I choose these words,” he added. “There were no international terrorists under Hussein,” nor WMDs. In 2007, he condemned Washington’s quest for unipolar global dominance “through a system which has nothing to do with democracy.” He added that Western powers are keen to teach Russia about it, but don’t practice it themselves. [1] He said post-Cold War armed conflicts and casualties exceeded prior eras. He added that we’re “witnessing an almost uncontained hyper-use of military force in international relations.” America spurns international norms and principles. It initiated a reckless arms race. It “overstepped its national borders in almost all spheres.” As a result, no one’s secure. In 2011, he condemned US/NATO’s Libya war, saying: “The Security Council resolution is deficient and flawed. It allows everything, and is reminiscent of a medieval call for a crusade. It effectively allows intervention in a sovereign state.” It’s becoming a “trend,” he added. “Now it’s Libya’s turn – under the pretext of protecting civilians. Where is the logic and conscience? There is neither. The ongoing events in Libya confirm that Russia is right to strengthen her defense capabilities.” Now he’s warning against foreign intervention in Syria, saying “Moscow won’t allow anyone to repeat the Libyan scenario….” He also firmly opposes attacking Iran. Last month he accused Washington of “diktat imperialism,” and said Russia will respond accordingly. He’s rightfully concerned about US bases encircling Russia, as well as encroaching offensive missile defense systems. His outspokenness shows he’s drawn red line opposition to America’s global imperial agenda. As president, he’s also supreme commander-in-chief in charge of military and foreign policy, especially national security matters. Hollow Fraud Accusations They falsely raged after last December’s parliamentary elections. Irregularities always occur. At issue is whether results are influenced. Russia’s were minor. Its Central Election Commission (CEC) mentioned inconsequential invisible ink, illegal propaganda, and “merry-go-round” voting incidents. The invisible ink scheme was uncovered and stopped. “Merry-go-round” fraud was grossly exaggerated. Without evidence, major media scoundrels claimed otherwise. Independent (CEC-invited) international monitors checked voting in over 30 Russian regions. They concluded the process was calm and orderly. Polish monitor Mateus Piskorski said, “All complaints are about technical issues and not about violations of election law.” Institute for Democracy and Cooperation director of studies John Laughland called electoral procedures “absolutely excellent.” He added that polling station workers were “extremely competent.” On March 4, RT headlined, “Foreign observers laud Russian monitoring system as ‘best in the world,’ ” saying: Thousands of Russian and foreign observers monitored polling stations throughout the voting process. Moreover, an elaborate Webcam system let anyone do it online. In fact, election officials said over two million people registered online to monitor voting live as it occurred. International monitors said it “exceeded everything they saw in their home countries – or anywhere else in the world.” They also agreed that “elections were held in a normal mode and without serious violations.” In addition, they praised the Webcam system. Italian independent observer Alessandro Mussolini said: “Judging by the results of our visits to the polling stations, we can make a statement that the Russian video monitoring system exceeds all international standards. It is wonderful that this complicated election mechanism is working.” Bulgarian monitor Milan Bozhevich added: “Everything was, well, transparent and open. Russia has opened a new page in history today – there is a broadcast of the Russian elections all over the world.” Others made similar comments. Serbia’s Tomislav Nikolich called it a “full level of democracy,” what his country’s elections lack. One Dagestan polling station was troublesome. Instances of multiple voting occurred. In response, results were nullified. Russia’s Interior Ministry reported no other serious violations. At 5:30PM Moscow time (17.5 hours after polls opened in Russia’s Far East), 86 complaints were received. In total after voting ended, 460 were registered. According to CEC’s deputy chairman Stanislav Vavilov: “We have information that hundreds of complaints have been written and will be submitted to the CEC in the near future. These complaints have been written in advance (prior to the March 4 poll).” Interviewed by RT, Adrian Salbuchi from Buenos Aires called Putin’s momentous victory "a break against a neo-colonial West." |
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| Originally posted by FunkyCrew still no facts from you either |
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| Originally posted by Sasha lol My fact is that Putin won the elections and none of the accusations against this fact have evidence. The better he does, the more Western world will try to interfere and hire "insiders" to bring him down. HAppy brainwashing Funky! im out of this |
So funny, a Russian not supporting his home country politics and arguing with two colonized Serbian and Latvian who believe otherwise.
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| Originally posted by geroin if you think putin does not brainwash people through media that he controls then its your own opinion. |
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| Originally posted by geroin |
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| Originally posted by malek So funny, a Russian not supporting his home country politics and arguing with two colonized Serbian and Latvian who believe otherwise. |
oooookey
I agree to disagree with you on this
we're all right & entitled to our opinions
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| Originally posted by Sasha I never said he didn't! I never said I fully supported him in ALL his doings! I never said i trust Putin's media 100%! I only trust the facts and my logic, I trust my friends and relatives who live in Russia and who are proud to be Russians and who are enjoying their lives a lot more than ever before. I'm not saying things are perfect back there, but History doesnt happen overnight. If you trust random bloggers and US/UK media, if you trust that garbage they feed you daily to cover all the shit that is wrong in their own backyard. |
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| Originally posted by geroin right..being proud to be russian and enjoying your life has nothing to do with inside politics of Russia. Putin is the biggest mafioso controlling everything from 0-infinity. Even if your relatives are living an amazing life it doesn't change the fact that the guy is almost like czar on the throne that cannot be removed. He controls opposition that he pays off and selects, he controls numerous businesses, he controls all the mass media that brainwashes numerous parts of russia that dont have an access to alternative means of getting news and information (like the internet). If you watch russian news channels, the first thing that is shown on the news on a daily basis is what medvedev did, second thing what putin did today then the rest of the news. Hes on TV 24/7. There are numerous parts of russia where people live in complete poverty just like they did 20 years ago which is not shown on TV. Life's have improved in Moscow and St. Petersburg, not the rest of russia, and if you have travelled around the russia yourself you cannot tell me otherwise. This is all a fucking act and you are welcome to take part of it. You really know nothing about inside of Russian politics based on the information you have provided. |
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| Originally posted by Sasha lol more bold statemnts, that you should have labeled AS YOUR GUESS OR OPINION. saying that the quality of life has only improved in Moscow and St-Petersburg is as smart as saying that all there is in Russia is vodka, bears and winter. Moscow vs rest of Russia is a new stereotype! |
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| Originally posted by Sasha There is just as much poverty in USA as there is in Russia if not more. Americans own NOTHING except DEBT! Western world has failed and soon to collapse, what we witness are the convulsions. They got nothing on China and Russia, |
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| Originally posted by Sasha When was the last time you travelled around Russia YOURSELF? |
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| Originally posted by Sasha it's just your OPINION again, and we all know where it's coming from. You are more than welcome to have it, my intention is not to prove you wrong. Bu tplease voice it as an opinion, not a fact! |
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| Originally posted by geroin |
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| Originally posted by geroin you can ask any of our mutual friends what their thoughts are on the topic, maybe then you will be able to digest some of the info i'm throwing at you. I'm not here to change your views, i just hope that after this you will look at different information that does not automatically praise putin for his efforts. |
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| Originally posted by Nicolas Oliver The OP is a joke, right? |
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| Putin is the biggest mafioso controlling everything from 0-infinity. |
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| Originally posted by geroin umm, it is a known FACT that moscow is its own hub, it is almost like a separate country housing the wealthiest people on earth. People all over russia travel to moscow leaving their families at home to try and make a living since most businesses are in or around Moscow, same with st petersburg. Do i really have to mention this? . |
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| Originally posted by exraver úÁÂÙÌ ÐÒÏ ÍÉÌÌÉÁÒÄ ÒÁÓÓÔÒÅÌÑÎÎÙÈ ÌÉÞÎÏ ðÕÔÉÎÙÍ. Cool story, bro. |
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| Originally posted by Sasha i still cant get over this. there is ignorance in every single word in this paragraph |
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