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Posted by meriter on Jan-05-2012 06:19:

Just watched Meloncholia. Don't even know what I can say about this there have been a lot of films lately that have been hitting a little too close to home.


Posted by Vector A on Jan-05-2012 06:31:

I have been waiting for months to see Melancholia.


Posted by kadomony on Jan-05-2012 06:37:




amazingly beautiful movie


Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Jan-05-2012 06:42:

^i'd heard about that movie, and considered watching it for some time. maybe i'll give it a go now

recently i saw:
a separation - did i mention that already in here? gotta be one of the best films of 2011. my 2nd or 3rd favorite (favorite 3 = 13 assassins, the mill and the cross, and a separation...in no specific order)
the skin i live in - wayyy more fucked up than i anticipated. enjoyable anyway.
carnage - meh. i really dig dialogue-driven movies at time but this was too dull at times


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jan-05-2012 13:43:

recently watched Jane eyre

this movie is now in my books as one of the best movies of 2011. it lived true to the novel, and superb acting by fassbender and wasikowska as jane.


Posted by netroM on Jan-05-2012 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony

amazingly beautiful movie

looks like Samurai Jack. Same studio?


Posted by Dj Nacht on Jan-05-2012 17:36:

Watched 50/50 and The Help

50/50 was alright. I laughed roughly 2 or 3 times just like when watching any other commercial movie these days. Why is it so hard to make a consistently funny movie? There is either one good joke every half hour or the movie is just trying to hard with a barrage of unfunny bullshit.

I had my eyes set on The Help for a while but was not motivated enough to watch it. Finally got around to it and I could definitely put it on my top 10 list of 2011. Really shows how patheticly ignorant people were in the 1960's. After the movie you just want to go around giving props to black people


Posted by kadomony on Jan-06-2012 09:29:

quote:
Originally posted by netroM
looks like Samurai Jack. Same studio?


I thought the same thing. Just checked and it's a different studio, but the director said he drew some inspiration from Samurai Jack.

http://thefilmstage.com/features/in...ecret-of-kells/


Posted by EgosXII on Jan-06-2012 09:38:

Watched Melancholia, thought it was shit. Boring, and too try-hard imo...

I liked 'the help' though, came in with low expectations which HELPed I think... Was super hollywood, but fairly good given that...


Posted by Julz on Jan-09-2012 16:26:

Melancholia was fucking shit.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jan-09-2012 21:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Julz
Melancholia was fucking shit.


You are fucking shit.


Seriously, it's great that you have opinions, guys, but they're fucking useless if you can't be bothered to justify them at least a little.


Posted by meriter on Jan-09-2012 21:22:

I didn't think it was the best movie ever but the subject matter was intriguing. I'm looking forward to future works from the director I liked the way it was put together


Posted by Julz on Jan-09-2012 21:30:

The movie was just really bland, the characters where not complex at all and we barely got to see who they are. The story was also lacking and was very predictable.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jan-10-2012 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Julz
The movie was just really bland, the characters where not complex at all and we barely got to see who they are. The story was also lacking and was very predictable.


See, that's better! Now I know why you're wrong.

Yes, the story was predictable (you get to see how it ends right in the beginning for god's sake), but that's because von Trier is interested in what happens prior to the apocalypse, not in following genre tropes of disaster movies where they send Bruce Willis on a suicide mission to save the world. The predictability is completely intentional so you don't have to worry how it ends and can focus on other things. You didn't like the story because of your inappropriate expectations, not because it sucked.

The key to watching (and at least partly getting) Melancholia is not to follow the narrative, but to look for symbolic meanings. The basic interpretation is that it's all about the end of the Western world that is based on materialism (the mansion) and science (the Kiefer Sutherland character who coincidentally owns the place). Characters don't have to be complex, they can be archetypal which is what Trier's been working with for a long time, most visibly in Antichrist. Justine (Justice?) is Melancholia, for example, the destructive force that ruins the opulent wedding (western values) and then acts calmly when the actual apocalypse begins.

It's a bit like when people kept saying that Avatar is shit because it's just Pocahontas with smurfs when in fact it was again consciously archetypal and what actually mattered was how the story was told, not what the story was.


Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Jan-10-2012 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
I didn't think it was the best movie ever but the subject matter was intriguing. I'm looking forward to future works from the director I liked the way it was put together


you should dig into his back catalog.
i'm not particularly fond of dancer in the dark, but i'd suggest dogville (hate the message and the idea of the film as it's quite anti-american, but love the methhod) and antichrist.


Posted by EgosXII on Jan-10-2012 09:25:

quote:
Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
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Dude, another sucker punch rant?

cbf essay ranting back to you; I agree with Julz- It was boring, and, as I already said, pretentious, in that it tried WAYYY tooo hard to be something it wasn't (interesting, and complex most centrally). It didn't achieve what it wanted to, and though you seem to give anything that TRIES to achieve ANYTHING 5 stars, I definitely don't.


quote:
Originally posted by meriter
I didn't think it was the best movie ever but the subject matter was intriguing. I'm looking forward to future works from the director I liked the way it was put together


Antichrist is bloody awesome. THIS movie was astounding, and definitely made him a filmaker worth watching. Melancholia was just a miss imo.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jan-10-2012 10:03:

i think this interview may clear up some doubts and feelings about 'Melancholia'. He did this interview a couple of months back.

Devin talks to Lars Von Trier from Fantastic Fest on Vimeo.


Posted by EgosXII on Jan-10-2012 10:54:

^haha he seems like an awesome guy. I love how he's like "its not at all important that its about me"


Posted by Kaidreas on Jan-10-2012 11:51:

The rise of planet of the apes! actually pretty good!


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jan-10-2012 12:01:

quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
^haha he seems like an awesome guy. I love how he's like "its not at all important that its about me"


yeah. while watching the interview the first time around, i was thinking to myself that lars is a pretty modest guy who didn't put much of the spotlight on himself. he had very good words about kirsten dunst.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jan-10-2012 12:16:

quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
Dude, another sucker punch rant?

cbf essay ranting back to you; I agree with Julz- It was boring, and, as I already said, pretentious, in that it tried WAYYY tooo hard to be something it wasn't (interesting, and complex most centrally). It didn't achieve what it wanted to, and though you seem to give anything that TRIES to achieve ANYTHING 5 stars, I definitely don't.


Again, this says absolutely nothing about the film.

What do you think it "tried to achieve"? Why do you think it failed? How can a movie try hard to be something it isn't?


quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch

Devin talks to Lars Von Trier from Fantastic Fest on Vimeo.




I stopped the video when the guy asked the question about scientific plausibility which suggests he didn't get the movie at all. The point of Melancholia is precisely that it isn't scientifically plausible; that there are forces beyond the Newtonian-Cartesian paradigm that will destroy us. According to von Trier, the "man of science" (Defoe in Antichrist, Sutherland in Melancholia) is in crisis.

It's useless to talk about any movie in terms of its adherence to scientific principles and physical laws; films follow their own set of rules and are always inherently unrealistic.


Posted by EgosXII on Jan-10-2012 12:53:

hoooollllyyyy shiiiiitttt LOL.

Lars Von Trier totally didn't get melancholia either. He missed the whole fucking point of the movie!

Like, seriously man; I know there's 100% no point talking to you, but Lars himself said he fucking DID consult a heap of scientists, and was extremely interested in that side of it. Fuck.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jan-10-2012 13:16:

He may have consulted Stephen Hawking for all I know; the point is, it's still not important. Instead of arguing ad hominems and making unsubstantiated claims, maybe you could tell me how exactly is this aspect of scientific plausibility relevant to any kind of interpretation of Melancholia or even to its passive viewing.

What a director (especially Trier) says in an interview does not matter.


Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Jan-12-2012 23:39:

New Wes Anderson flick:



What an amazing cast!!
Bill Murray & Jason Schwartzman, of course, but Edward Norton + Bruce Willis + Frances Mcdermot + Tilda Swinton


Posted by mathieu on Jan-12-2012 23:51:

The Devil Inside.

Don't watch it. Mother****** it was bad.

Its another one of those handheld camera films, I could basically tell what the characters were going to say, I got a couple jumps but theres a difference between jumping and being surprised from loud well timed fucking noise and being scared. if you really want to see it, torrent it lol


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