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Posted by infiniteJEST on Aug-10-2010 21:40:

I am going to watch 120 Days of Sodom.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Aug-10-2010 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by couch-potato
I am going to watch 120 Days of Sodom.




Posted by The17sss on Aug-11-2010 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by chimera66
added the road to my queue because of someone's suggestion, just finished it and can't really say i saw the point.


You were probably so beaten down by the difficult and depressing to put the optimism in perspective. This is the best explanation I've read, given by author Dennis Lehane (Mystic River, Shutter Island) that should help clarify the point of The Road:

a portion of his commentary:
quote:
Stealing across this horrific (and that's the only word for it) landscape are an unnamed man and his emaciated son, a boy probably around the age of ten. It is the love the father feels for his son, a love as deep and acute as his grief, that could surprise readers of McCarthy's previous work. McCarthy's Gnostic impressions of mankind have left very little place for love. In fact that greatest love affair in any of his novels, I would argue, occurs between the Billy Parham and the wolf in The Crossing.

But here the love of a desperate father for his sickly son transcends all else. McCarthy has always written about the battle between light and darkness; the darkness usually comprises 99.9% of the world, while any illumination is the weak shaft thrown by a penlight running low on batteries. In The Road, those batteries are almost out--the entire world is, quite literally, dying--so the final affirmation of hope in the novel's closing pages is all the more shocking and maybe all the more enduring as the boy takes all of his father's (and McCarthy's) rage at the hopeless folly of man and lays it down, lifting up, in its place, the oddest of all things: faith.


Posted by EgosXII on Aug-11-2010 04:02:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
You were probably so beaten down by the difficult and depressing to put the optimism in perspective. This is the best explanation I've read, given by author Dennis Lehane (Mystic River, Shutter Island) that should help clarify the point of The Road:

a portion of his commentary:


that's the point of the novel though, which was fantastic. The film's shit.

Cormac Mccarthy is a genius i tells ya! The film version was shit, and ruined the brilliant simplicity of the book imo.


Posted by Meat187 on Aug-11-2010 05:27:

quote:
Originally posted by couch-potato
I am going to watch 120 Days of Sodom.



You will regret this.


Posted by The17sss on Aug-11-2010 05:46:

quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
that's the point of the novel though, which was fantastic. The film's shit.

Cormac Mccarthy is a genius i tells ya! The film version was shit, and ruined the brilliant simplicity of the book imo.


the chasm between the book and the movie was that wide? I haven't read the book so obviously I can't comment, but I can see in the movie the description Dennis Lehane described.


Posted by infiniteJEST on Aug-11-2010 08:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
You will regret this.


In terms of depravity, I can say that the film one up'd my imagination quite a few times.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Aug-12-2010 05:14:

Dunno if this film was mentioned, but I loved it.


Posted by Meat187 on Aug-12-2010 09:16:

quote:
Originally posted by couch-potato
In terms of depravity, I can say that the film one up'd my imagination quite a few times.


I once tried watching it and turned it off again after some time. Things were just getting too gross and disgusting for me to enjoy that movie.


Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Aug-12-2010 09:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I once tried watching it and turned it off again after some time. Things were just getting too gross and disgusting for me to enjoy that movie.

+1....i couldn't get through it. i'm generally not to bad with things like that either. it was just too much.
last night i was watching a masters of horror episode (cigarette burns) that involved some depraved movie that drove those who watched it to madness. i couldn't help but thing "it must've been pretty similar to 120 days of sodom..."


Posted by Renzo on Aug-12-2010 09:22:

I just googled it. It looks awful.


Posted by EgosXII on Aug-12-2010 09:40:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
the chasm between the book and the movie was that wide? I haven't read the book so obviously I can't comment, but I can see in the movie the description Dennis Lehane described.


haha I'm definitely exagerrating the divide, but it just had those annoying hollywood 'flash-back' moments which really soured it for me solely because i think the outstanding thing about the book was absolutely no back-story, no attempt to explain, OR solve what got them to the apocalyptic place they were in...

The film version wasn't 2012 or anything, but i feel like that's why it was made into a film: Apocalyptic films sell!

edit: LOL yeah the divide really wasn't as bad as my original post which i just re-read, i just have strong feelings about what hollywood does to books


Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Aug-12-2010 09:45:

quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
the outstanding thing about the book was absolutely no back-story, no attempt to explain, OR solve what got them to the apocalyptic place they were in...


you're so right here. i think there was maybe a chapter in the book, at the very most, that dated back to before the end of days. or perhaps that was a flashback to as the apocalypse was beginning. i can't quite remember - but it was a chapter, or a few pages, detailing a conflict between the protagonist and his wife, to explain how father and son ended up alone.
it's been a while, i could be a bit wrong there. but that's how i remember it


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Aug-12-2010 14:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I once tried watching it and turned it off again after some time. Things were just getting too gross and disgusting for me to enjoy that movie.


I was far more unsettled by the abhorable film palette than anything else. All the browns and yellows and kind of vintage overexposure - it wasn't merely the artifact of that time and place in Italian cinema, even - to which these elements were quite common anyway - Pasolini did it all on purpose just to give unease to the on-screen horrors of psychosexual domination. He did it just to make me queasy.

Exactly like the story from which Salo is derived from, De Sade's 120 Days of Sodom of course, I find the director of the film to be more interesting than the film, itself, just as I find the man, De Sade, to be more interesting than his actual stories. They were both outrageous personalities, and each of them were interned in their own ways - their horrific byproducts being ways of practically vandalizing the prison bathroom walls. With their own feces.


Posted by Penalba on Aug-12-2010 14:58:

waking life, waking life, oldboy, oldboy, what the bleep do we know, what the bleep do we know, fearless freaks, fearless freaks


Posted by chimera66 on Aug-12-2010 16:18:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
You were probably so beaten down by the difficult and depressing to put the optimism in perspective. This is the best explanation I've read, given by author Dennis Lehane (Mystic River, Shutter Island) that should help clarify the point of The Road:

a portion of his commentary:


i like that description, maybe I would have felt that more if I read the book like EgosXII mentioned. I just didn't feel the man's great love for his son, I know he loved him but it didn't feel as exaggerated as perhaps they intended for it to be.


Posted by infiniteJEST on Aug-12-2010 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Exactly like the story from which Salo is derived from, De Sade's 120 Days of Sodom of course, I find the director of the film to be more interesting than the film, itself, just as I find the man, De Sade, to be more interesting than his actual stories. They were both outrageous personalities, and each of them were interned in their own ways - their horrific byproducts being ways of practically vandalizing the prison bathroom walls. With their own feces.


The man himself was definitely a character. Gorged himself to obesity, gets imprisoned several times and often gets kicked out for trying to seduce his younger male prison mates


Posted by Dj Nacht on Aug-12-2010 16:47:

The Road is definately on my top ten movies. I can't beleive people don't like the movie because its so dark. This is as real as it gets in my opinion.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Aug-12-2010 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Nacht
The Road is definately on my top ten movies. I can't beleive people don't like the movie because its so dark. This is as real as it gets in my opinion.



I like it! I would like something like that to actually happen, just to see if I could survive.

My family gets really annoyed cause every time I see them I ask them if they want to invest in buying some land and building a bunker lololol. I'll build mine, and someday they'll regret it!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Aug-12-2010 17:35:

Oh man, that scene when they finally have a real bath. Holy shit.


Posted by chimera66 on Aug-12-2010 19:14:

if something like that actually happened i'd kill myself, i prefer to skip the getting raped by dirty (in every sense of the word) men and being eaten thank you very much.

as for the bath scene why do they have running water? with the world falling apart all around them how could the plumbing work? rather than enjoying that particular scene i questioned it. another thing that got me is when they found that family that hung themselves they didn't take their shoes. they eat roaches but they aren't desperate to protect their feat, their sole mode of transport?


Posted by Dj Nacht on Aug-12-2010 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by chimera66
if something like that actually happened i'd kill myself, i prefer to skip the getting raped by dirty (in every sense of the word) men and being eaten thank you very much.

as for the bath scene why do they have running water? with the world falling apart all around them how could the plumbing work? rather than enjoying that particular scene i questioned it. another thing that got me is when they found that family that hung themselves they didn't take their shoes. they eat roaches but they aren't desperate to protect their feat, their sole mode of transport?


your 2 intense

Everyone I know either hates or loves this movie, most hate it. All for the same reason, its depressing. I get so pissed! Who gives a shit! How can you say a movie is bad because its depressing and dark! Go watch some disney movies in your parents basement!


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Aug-12-2010 19:45:

haven't watched the road in awhile, nor read the book.

however, from what i remember, i feel the movie is a contrast of the world we live in compared to what we as a society would do if an apocalyptic occurrence would happen. i think the story questions how strong our minds work if we are left to limited resources, and have to search for a means of survival.

this is what "man" and "boy" had to go through. they saw how humanity has resorted to violence and cannibalism, and "man" did not want his son or himself to live life like that. from what i remember, i think there were times where the "man" wanted to teach the "boy" that violence was never the answer, even if someone wants to hurt him. i see the story of a man fighting against himself to not breakdown into an uncivilized manner.

i loved the movie. i need to watch the movie again to give a better statement about the movie.


Posted by Dj Nacht on Aug-12-2010 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
haven't watched the road in awhile, nor read the book.

however, from what i remember, i feel the movie is a contrast of the world we live in compared to what we as a society would do if an apocalyptic occurrence would happen. i think the story questions how strong our minds work if we are left to limited resources, and have to search for a means of survival.

this is what "man" and "boy" had to go through. they saw how humanity has resorted to violence and cannibalism, and "man" did not want his son or himself to live life like that. from what i remember, i think there were times where the "man" wanted to teach the "boy" that violence was never the answer, even if someone wants to hurt him. i see the story of a man fighting against himself to not breakdown into an uncivilized manner.

i loved the movie. i need to watch the movie again to give a better statement about the movie.


Good stuff! I have to read the book when I get a chance.
Everyone ends up hating the movie because the ending. I tell them to watch 2012 if they want a nice end of the world movie. Your living in a fantasy world if you think the Government is building giant ships for us


Posted by The17sss on Aug-12-2010 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Oh man, that scene when they finally have a real bath. Holy shit.


I got chills down my spine during the scene where they find the people in the basement being used as a food source. Then have to run the other direction as a group of guys descend on a woman and her little kid, knowing what's about to happen to them. Fuck.


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