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Posted by Richard Butler on Jun-01-2015 13:35:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
yeah this is really good, i would drop that bit around 3:15 tho? it just sounds off and doesnt really add anything imo!



Cheers for this, I was waiting for someone to say this as I am unhappy with that whole second break, it seems boring and clumsy.

Thanks for all the comments guys, I think I must have made a decent track this time. What about my vocals though, sound unpro don't they? I only did them as place holders in far from ideal circumstances (people shouting in background etc).


Posted by djnitride on Jun-01-2015 13:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Your intro there is great, love the grove and the kick up to about 60 seconds, that for me is the basis of the track. Maybe to another cut making the most of that.
I would suggest you add the following;

Your sample goes, "bam..bam..bam.bam / bam..bam..bam.bam"

Now at the end of that cycle maybe add a double tap "oof.oof" right after the last "bam"

Fuk it's at times like this I wish I had a proper musical vocabulary like some of you do.


The track as you have it for me looses it's grove after that intro but that's only my personal taste, so feel free to ignore. Grove is a very personal thing after all.


Hmmm... I may take a look at the groove after the intro as I have been feeling my bassline is kinda "out of phase" with the track after it comes in and the percussion is just a bit "stiff" before the full hat pattern comes in.

I know what you are saying, if you had explained it with a music vocabulary it would have been over my head

Thanks for the feedback.

As for the vocal in your track I thought it was fine. It went with the track nicely and sounded in place.


Posted by Innocence Lost on Jun-01-2015 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Good mix and sounds here, I think if you could bring in some key changes it would round things off nicely. Or perhaps this is your artistic statement, keeping it in one key? If you wanted I could suggest some key changes ( I cannot read music tho, so I would just have to send you the midi I guess).


Yeah Richard I'm happy to learn.


Posted by evo8 on Jun-01-2015 18:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Cheers for this, I was waiting for someone to say this as I am unhappy with that whole second break, it seems boring and clumsy.

Thanks for all the comments guys, I think I must have made a decent track this time. What about my vocals though, sound unpro don't they? I only did them as place holders in far from ideal circumstances (people shouting in background etc).


I was going to ask who was on vox duty, pretty good man! did you write the lyrics as well, really cool lyrics i have to say!


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jun-01-2015 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I think this remix of Calebs track is done now.



I can hear a lot of effort went to this track man, great work -> there is only one think I will ask you to do, play this on any HiFi system at home and also in a car and see if you completely happy from it -> if you do then start shopping Richard

Darek


Posted by LoveHate on Jun-01-2015 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I think this remix of Calebs track is done now.




digging this , adding it to my playlist.


Posted by LoveHate on Jun-01-2015 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
Fantastic track Richard, everything is on point including the mixing. One of the better tracks I have heard on this forum, it just works man



Latest update to my track, think its ready to go into mixing now. Lets see how many people catch the movie sample



nice i am getting that late 90s early 00s rave vibe very reminiscent of like the chemical brothers.


Posted by Richard Butler on Jun-01-2015 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Innocence Lost
Finished....



So as promised here is a quick basic idea of some chord progression that might give you some thoughts on how to develop your track there.

The first 16 bars are on the same key as your intro.
Might be of help, dunno?
Obviously adapt it to the vocals, I just did this as a rough sketch idea.


Posted by Innocence Lost on Jun-02-2015 03:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
So as promised here is a quick basic idea of some chord progression that might give you some thoughts on how to develop your track there.

The first 16 bars are on the same key as your intro.
Might be of help, dunno?
Obviously adapt it to the vocals, I just did this as a rough sketch idea.



Thanks you rock, will go thru it in my daw.


Posted by djnitride on Jun-04-2015 18:41:

Finished the mixdown of my last track. I didn't end up making many modifications to the groove or song structure but I am happy with the mixdown result for the most part:


Posted by djnitride on Jun-06-2015 20:52:

Did another one of those jam sessions inspred by evo8, this one in somewhat more of a homage to some Tangerine Dream techniques. Thinking about making it into a full track with a bit more detailed of a progression, wondered what people thought of it.


Posted by Richard Butler on Jun-06-2015 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
Did another one of those jam sessions inspred by evo8, this one in somewhat more of a homage to some Tangerine Dream techniques. Thinking about making it into a full track with a bit more detailed of a progression, wondered what people thought of it.



That is sweet as, really evocative of TG. I would make some techno drums for this if you fancy!


Posted by djnitride on Jun-06-2015 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
That is sweet as, really evocative of TG. I would make some techno drums for this if you fancy!


That would be awesome Richard, I am still working on my percussion technique but its no where near where I want it to be.

Here is the Master without any drums added: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xbu09do78...Master.wav?dl=0


Posted by Innocence Lost on Jun-07-2015 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
Finished the mixdown of my last track. I didn't end up making many modifications to the groove or song structure but I am happy with the mixdown result for the most part:



aww man this is awesome. This is one of my fav tracks from you. Love the vocal clips, fits well with the track and the sound design is ridiculous


Posted by deegee on Jun-07-2015 02:34:

k so this is something I've been fiddling with. I know the mixing is craptacular--I'm really only looking for feedback about the general structure, if this is one worth pursuing.


Posted by djnitride on Jun-07-2015 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by deegee
k so this is something I've been fiddling with. I know the mixing is craptacular--I'm really only looking for feedback about the general structure, if this is one worth pursuing.


@1:05 LOVE this sound and progression

I feel like you released the tension a little too fast after it though. Just a little bit, with a bit more sustained momentum it would be more coherent.

@4:00 would like to hear that one progression in a full energy section kinda like this

@5:00 I would maybe change the sound of the lead here to something a bit less harsh sounding, mixing aside. Maybe it would sound good once you mix it, not 100% sure though.

Overall I love the idea of the track and think its certainly a keeper. Keep working at it! I would definitely play to that progression @1:05 a bit more.

quote:
Originally posted by Innocence Lost
aww man this is awesome. This is one of my fav tracks from you. Love the vocal clips, fits well with the track and the sound design is ridiculous


Thanks man


Posted by SystematicX1 on Jun-07-2015 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by deegee
k so this is something I've been fiddling with. I know the mixing is craptacular--I'm really only looking for feedback about the general structure, if this is one worth pursuing.




Not so sure about that bass but the arp at the beginning is PHAT! Love it.
1:05 seems to have some really odd sounds and almost clashing.
The bass transitions seem to be somewhat off,to many areas where the airiness of the pads come through.

The vibe is cool and you have some great higher frequency stuff going on. I'd try to match those better with your main driving bassline.


Posted by Richard Butler on Jun-07-2015 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
That would be awesome Richard, I am still working on my percussion technique but its no where near where I want it to be.

Here is the Master without any drums added: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xbu09do78...Master.wav?dl=0


wuts the BPM mate?


Posted by djnitride on Jun-07-2015 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
wuts the BPM mate?


110 BPM.


Posted by Richard Butler on Jun-07-2015 21:54:

Here's those drums, not sure if they really fit tho lol!



Posted by djnitride on Jun-08-2015 03:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's those drums, not sure if they really fit tho lol!




Nice! Its definitely different than the original track but I like the heavier percussion with the highs more pronounced in the mix.

Sounds better than mine for sure


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jun-09-2015 19:10:

Zak McKracken & gordan100 - just a suggestion guys, please look at this thread rules:

RULES
1. Post a track, comment on a track.
- That means that if you want to post a track you're working on, you first have to comment on a track.
2. Comment on the newest track posted
- Failure to do so will result in your track being ignored.
..................... .

This would definitely give you a better chance of getting more comments/reviews on your tracks.

Darek


Posted by gordan100 on Jun-09-2015 19:42:

TranceLover, thanks for your suggestion

quote:
Originally posted by deegee
k so this is something I've been fiddling with. I know the mixing is craptacular--I'm really only looking for feedback about the general structure, if this is one worth pursuing.



I like how it starts, like the arp sound... but later on it's starts to be repetitive. From 2:00 to 3:00 - kinda psychedelic but too messy for me. From 4:00 it's starts to get really repetitive.

Edit
After second listening part from 2:00 to 3:00 sounds better ...
But i don't like where you take it later on.

Edit 2
After third listening the only part that bugs me is 3:40-4:40 and 4:58-5:50, because melody is not attractive enough to me.

I don't really know if i helped you


Posted by Innocence Lost on Jun-12-2015 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by deegee
k so this is something I've been fiddling with. I know the mixing is craptacular--I'm really only looking for feedback about the general structure, if this is one worth pursuing.



Sure needs work, but I like it overall, its nice anyhow, cheers.


Posted by gordan100 on Jun-13-2015 18:00:

I think i'm done with this.

Is it any good?


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