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| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
I just still can't believe he got any traction. I grew up thinking Brazil would always kind of be a mostly progressive country as an emerging economy. This worldwide phenomena of right wing populism is bizarre and especially bizarre in brazil since there is really no immigration issue, instead it's an internal conflict. It's really fucking stupid, it's like right wing brazilians want to be americans. America sucks, who wants to be america? |
Here's the thing: the left, the centre-left, and the centre are divided between 7 candidates or so. As a centrist, I'd pick Henrique Meirelles, but Marina Silva has a better shot at being elected, and Ciro Gomes in the centre-left is doing better than Geraldo Alckmin in the centre-right, so I'd also give him a chance. That means I don't have one candidate to choose from, but four, and that's just the centre.
Oh, and there's Haddad. He exists.
The right, on the other hand, has Bolsonaro and Daciolo (who is too extreme even to Bolsonaro voters). Amoedo has the libertarian vote, but libertarianism is too weak to make a dent on Bolsonaro's support. Some other candidates, like Eymael, are redundant, because he'd have the religious vote - but that's irrelevant when all candidates are Christian.
The thing is, Bolsonaro loses to pretty much everyone in the run-off (except to Haddad, then it's a tie). That's when the electorate has just two candidates to choose from.
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
My uncle is one, I love him to death and he's one of my favorite people, but I'm gonna blow his spot up a little. He talks shit about brazil all day long, he comes to visit us, splurges, shops, goes travelling, buys us gifts. He says america is great, brazil is shit, this that, but he doesn't really think that. He doesn't wanna move here, he has a nice government salary, tenure, he's set. He doesn't even understand that people struggle here too.
He complains about PT and the people of the north, typical coxinha stuff. |
That's actually pretty common down here. I grew up listening to this nonsense (never bought it though, as I came to age during an economic boom that lasted 20 years or so). It's quite prevalent among my students though, and it breaks my heart because they're the first ones to knock on Brazil to the foreign students who come because they're interested in the country 
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
People had no dignity at all, no living standards in parts of Brazil before Lula took office, I don't know much of what happened after that, but obviously a clusterfuck of things for it to lead regular people to start propping up conservative talking points like we've heard from republicans here in this country for decades. |
Before FHC took office, actually, no? Lula then kept doing the right things, but the country began to get on track in 1994 with the Real Plan - that's when social inequality began to go down, and then Lula accelerated the process with the implementation of Bolsa Família and the like. My wife came from a poor rural background, and she says that's when she managed to start buying new clothes.
This is a very oversimplified account of what happened, but public spending protected us from the 2009 Financial Crisis and, when government was supposed to stop spending so much, the population got mad at the Olympics and the World Cup and then Dilma doubled down to appease the populace. Calling it "disastrous" would be an understatement, so congress showed her the door.
When it all unravelled and the economy was in tatters, there was one clear culprit: the Workers Party. That's both unfair and quite effective.
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
It's sad to watch from afar. Brazil is following the same trends of inequality as america. People with money are so removed from the day to day and the conditions of living of the poor and working people in brazil, they don't even notice it. I do because when I go, I go everywhere. My uncle's condo in sao paulo, my aunt's house in the morro, I stay with my grandpa in the neighborhood I grew up in, which is really nothing fabulous. I see it, and it's really fucked up. And way more fucked up than here in some senses because the little safety net that brazilians have, the right wing is trying to get rid of as opposed to the relatively stable social programs we have here for people who are starving, and mandatory emergency care and all that shit that republicans would never even think of touching without fearing the outrage of the population. |
Yeah, I feel it on a daily basis. It's heart-wrenching
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